tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post1612121795087794344..comments2023-06-27T08:15:48.443-05:00Comments on Smockity Frocks: Too Much, Too SoonSmockity Frockshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15922037293905396736noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-48764433245591250532008-10-30T13:21:00.000-05:002008-10-30T13:21:00.000-05:00Big City Mama,It takes more than being "in the dar...Big City Mama,<BR/>It takes more than being "in the dark" to become pregnant. <BR/><BR/>I am fully aware that teenagers get pregnant. I think we need to be teaching about a little thing called SELF CONTROL, which is sorely lacking in most of the youth today. NOT teaching detailed information about variations of sexual intimacy to pre-teens.<BR/><BR/>Are you saying you believe if children didn'tSmockity Frockshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15922037293905396736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-57509031331904672972008-10-30T12:33:00.000-05:002008-10-30T12:33:00.000-05:00While you may have those conversations with your c...While you may have those conversations with your children, not all parents do, and I think your children may be the exception, rather than the rule, unfortunately.<BR/><BR/>Keeping our children in the dark about this can lead to teenage pregnancy and worse - Sarah Palin doesn't believe in school sex ed either, and look at her daughter now.bigcitymamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12298824343224751857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-76220915718838692892008-10-19T22:50:00.000-05:002008-10-19T22:50:00.000-05:00Sophie,Thanks for this discussion! No strife. It...Sophie,<BR/>Thanks for this discussion! No strife. It's all good.<BR/><BR/>For the kids coming to church who don't have parents teaching them, I would say they need to hear in Bible class and from the pulpit, first of all that we, as Christians, are not to conform to the world (Romans 12:1). That will mean that we do things differently, like committing to following God's word. Part of that isSmockity Frockshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15922037293905396736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-42575618966058411232008-10-19T20:21:00.000-05:002008-10-19T20:21:00.000-05:00I absolutely agree with everything that you said i...I absolutely agree with everything that you said in your last two posts! I see no reason to discuss any of the things that you talked about in those paragraphs (variations and such, yikes!)--you are very correct! What I meant was that having information about HOW and WHY to remain pure would be very helpful to teens. Things like: what the physical and emotional and spiritual consequences of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-63752282074705335152008-10-19T15:12:00.000-05:002008-10-19T15:12:00.000-05:00I just wanted to come back quickly and make clear ...I just wanted to come back quickly and make clear that I didn't mean any of that to sound snippy!<BR/><BR/>I know that others have different perspectives and appreciate you chiming in, Sophie.<BR/><BR/>I just think that the extent of what should be taught in our churches is that intimacy outside of marriage is sin. Period. Intimate kissing, touching, etc. is for marriage only. <BR/><BR/>I don'tSmockity Frockshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15922037293905396736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-35832015578176097282008-10-19T14:40:00.000-05:002008-10-19T14:40:00.000-05:00Sophie,Thank you for the compliments and for shari...Sophie,<BR/>Thank you for the compliments and for sharing your story. <BR/><BR/>I'm not sure if you are saying that having more information about the specific variations of intimate acts would have helped you to remain pure, but if you are saying that, I wonder how that would have helped. <BR/><BR/>I would like my children to be made aware (by my husband and me) that God has given each of us Smockity Frockshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15922037293905396736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-50887118597937484152008-10-18T23:27:00.000-05:002008-10-18T23:27:00.000-05:00Let me start by saying how very much I enjoy your ...Let me start by saying how very much I enjoy your blog and love your family! Although I can see why your family would not need or want these discussions, you must realize that your children are in the minority of kids being raised so well. I am willing to "agree to disagree" with you somewhat on this topic, but have some thoughts I'd like to share from a different perspective. First of all, I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-39133025964925785892008-10-18T10:16:00.000-05:002008-10-18T10:16:00.000-05:00If you don't make your voice heard loud and clear,...If you don't make your voice heard loud and clear, no one will listen.<BR/>Not the church leadership and not the school boards.<BR/>We have had a lot foisted off on us in the past years, while we just sat and did nothing.<BR/>And I would wonder about the character and relationship with the Lord of someone who insisted on teaching this is an apparently ungodly way. AND the church leadership that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-70846201864436457782008-10-18T09:18:00.000-05:002008-10-18T09:18:00.000-05:00I agree with you so much, Connie.When our children...I agree with you so much, Connie.<BR/><BR/>When our children were all small, I thought junior high was a long way off.<BR/><BR/>As they grew, I realized that in some churches the junior high divisions would include 10 and 11 year olds. That really gave me a new perspective and I KNEW I didn't want them learning these things at 10 or 11. Frankly, I don't ever want them to be comfortable sitting Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-82721368971651683862008-10-17T17:11:00.000-05:002008-10-17T17:11:00.000-05:00I absolutely agree with you. If that was happening...I absolutely agree with you. If that was happening in my church, someone would be hearing quite strongly from me and my dh. Absolutely not the place for that. No. way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-47828199353521927742008-10-17T17:09:00.000-05:002008-10-17T17:09:00.000-05:00I remember being in junior high and getting so tir...I remember being in junior high and getting so tired of hearing about sex. In the public school, sex ed started in 5th grade. My mom talked to me about it. The kids at school talked dirty about it. When my Sunday school male teacher had to graphically explain circumcision and why Abraham had his servant swear, placing his hand under his thigh etc. etc., I told my parents that I was tired of Melisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03849654840545196368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-11150165918083738012008-10-17T14:59:00.000-05:002008-10-17T14:59:00.000-05:00Yikes...I think I am with you on this one. This is...Yikes...I think I am with you on this one. This is a subject I would rather speak to my children about, not another adult (or another teen for that matter).jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05579347073623633850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-78136363226554689382008-10-17T12:54:00.000-05:002008-10-17T12:54:00.000-05:00Brenda, Since you asked... No. I don't think our ...Brenda, <BR/>Since you asked... No. I don't think our children should know about every deviant and promiscuous behavior that other teens know about. At least they should not be speaking about those things. I know others disagree and think having open and frank discussions is best. I don't.<BR/><BR/>Lisa, <BR/>I would be beyond LIVID!Smockity Frockshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15922037293905396736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-34541421005615767492008-10-17T11:11:00.000-05:002008-10-17T11:11:00.000-05:00I found your blog through Laura. This happened to...I found your blog through Laura. This happened to us w/o our knowledge, except that the public school teacher teaching the 5th & 6th graders decided they needed Jr. High curriculum at that age. It was the beginning of the end of our kids' involvement in Sunday school.Lisa Wintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14478595949420793339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-34272897471821038552008-10-17T10:32:00.000-05:002008-10-17T10:32:00.000-05:00I agree very much. Good post. :)I agree very much. Good post. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-40893060973174517292008-10-17T10:20:00.000-05:002008-10-17T10:20:00.000-05:00Amen! I think we've gotten to the point where our...Amen! I think we've gotten to the point where our Sunday Schools are just weak copies of public schools. They certainly are run by people with the same philosophy.Headmistress, zookeeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14071449326819510530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-44079994044345813032008-10-17T08:23:00.000-05:002008-10-17T08:23:00.000-05:00You're a good Mama. My hubs was....lamenting (?) t...You're a good Mama. My hubs was....lamenting (?) the other day. His cousin attends the same high school that my hubs attended nearly 15 years ago. His cousin recently started her Sex-Ed course (she's 14?) and my hubs was SHOCKED that the school now hands out condoms....to 14 year olds! This high school is smack dab in the middle of Utah Mormon Country. There are maybe 3 dozen kids, out of 2,000, LunaMoonbeamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09945247325982035591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-77263794561697966912008-10-17T06:51:00.000-05:002008-10-17T06:51:00.000-05:00Call me old-fashioned too...too much says me. I a...Call me old-fashioned too...too much says me. I agree...well said!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-27561605235957866042008-10-17T01:18:00.000-05:002008-10-17T01:18:00.000-05:00Christianity today is not like yesterday. Yes, I a...Christianity today is not like yesterday. Yes, I am old-fashioned and proud of it. I can't believe a church that preaches salvation and God's Word would teach this to pre-teens or teens themselves. That's opening up their minds to be 'thinking' which could cause impurity and possibly open up a can of worms for sin to take place. The parents of children should be teaching what the Bible says aboutSharihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04554314908015066118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3006405629844665542.post-64385399282927816742008-10-17T00:00:00.000-05:002008-10-17T00:00:00.000-05:00My husband was part-time youth minister for a time...My husband was part-time youth minister for a time and boy the knowledge those kids had about things! It really did seem that the whole group of 'em knew about all of it too. We sort of worried about the incoming 6th graders--what would they learn here? He always taught from God's word, but the stuff they knew always came out in discussion time. It seems they really do deal with these things. Brendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13893224927335285415noreply@blogger.com